Wamu - Der Nachrichten- und Links-Thread !
21.12.09 01:45
#1
tapas90
Wamu - Der Nachrichten- und Links-Thread !
Dieser Thread ist ein Sammelordner für die aktuellsten News und die dazugehörigen Links.
Er soll zur besseren Übersicht beitragen, damit wichtige News nicht in dem Diskussionforum untergehen.
- Bitte stellt die News und Links aus dem Diskussionsforum auch hier ein.
- Fragen oder Beiträge weiterhin in dem bekannten vorhandenen Thread einstellen.
- Bitte haltet euch an die Forenregeln, danke!
21.12.09 01:48
#2
tapas90
Wamu Linkliste von Gumoe
Gumoe: Wamu Linkliste.... 20.12.09 16:56 #2 Beitragsbewertung (Hilfe)
interessant witzig gut analysiert informativ
Investor 2009 820/3904Trader 2009 1926/3539melden http://www.kccllc.net/wamu
Kurtzman Carson Link zu den Court-Filings
http://www.my.calendars.net/wmi
Kalender court dates
http://twitter.com/WaMuUpdates
Twitter updates für Anhörungen
http://streetace.com/wamu.php
Charts and info including ROI calculator on all Wamu securities
http://www.deb.uscourts.gov/Opinions/opinions_walrath.htm
Decisions of The Honorable Mary J. Walrath, Judge in Delaware bankruptcy court.
http://chap11.epiqsystems.com/...-2db7-46cf-92cb-30b1fea50bc5&l=1
Wamu Creditors' Committee site, some pertinent info and FAQ
http://www.shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=wamuq&submit=Short+Quote%99
wmi short sale info
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=11133
i-hub Wamu board
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/...nd=Find+Companies&action=getcompany
wmi SEC filings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Mutual
Wikipedia Wamu page, info and 50 links
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122238415586576687.html
WSJ article of Sept. 26th 2008, first day after seizure
http://law.widener.edu/Academics/Faculty/...sDeAdj/SleetGregoryM.aspx … Profile of Judge Sleet
http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/collyer-bio.html
Profile of Judge Collyer (D.C. suit vs. FDIC)
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/Opinions.pl?2009
2009 opinions/decisions page for the D.C. court, type "Collyer" in the search box to narrow results to just her court.
http://www.nwprogressive.org/vault/legal/MAR09WaMuLawsuit.pdf of Wamu's lawsuit action against the FDIC
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/wamu.html
FDIC's Wamu page
http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08085.html
FDIC press release about Wamu seizure
http://www.fdic.gov/about/freedom/Washington_Mutual_P_and_A.pdf Link to FDIC P & A of the Wamu sale.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14326.html
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article13894.html
Interesting articles/opinions about Wamu, the FDIc, JPM, and the trading activity that went on prior to seizure.
YouTube Video /
Another unhappy group, interesting though that this site is now saying JPM is WORSE! Read the recent posts.
interessant witzig gut analysiert informativ
Investor 2009 820/3904Trader 2009 1926/3539melden http://www.kccllc.net/wamu
Kurtzman Carson Link zu den Court-Filings
http://www.my.calendars.net/wmi
Kalender court dates
http://twitter.com/WaMuUpdates
Twitter updates für Anhörungen
http://streetace.com/wamu.php
Charts and info including ROI calculator on all Wamu securities
http://www.deb.uscourts.gov/Opinions/opinions_walrath.htm
Decisions of The Honorable Mary J. Walrath, Judge in Delaware bankruptcy court.
http://chap11.epiqsystems.com/...-2db7-46cf-92cb-30b1fea50bc5&l=1
Wamu Creditors' Committee site, some pertinent info and FAQ
http://www.shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=wamuq&submit=Short+Quote%99
wmi short sale info
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=11133
i-hub Wamu board
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/...nd=Find+Companies&action=getcompany
wmi SEC filings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Mutual
Wikipedia Wamu page, info and 50 links
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122238415586576687.html
WSJ article of Sept. 26th 2008, first day after seizure
http://law.widener.edu/Academics/Faculty/...sDeAdj/SleetGregoryM.aspx … Profile of Judge Sleet
http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/collyer-bio.html
Profile of Judge Collyer (D.C. suit vs. FDIC)
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/Opinions.pl?2009
2009 opinions/decisions page for the D.C. court, type "Collyer" in the search box to narrow results to just her court.
http://www.nwprogressive.org/vault/legal/MAR09WaMuLawsuit.pdf of Wamu's lawsuit action against the FDIC
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/wamu.html
FDIC's Wamu page
http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08085.html
FDIC press release about Wamu seizure
http://www.fdic.gov/about/freedom/Washington_Mutual_P_and_A.pdf Link to FDIC P & A of the Wamu sale.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14326.html
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article13894.html
Interesting articles/opinions about Wamu, the FDIc, JPM, and the trading activity that went on prior to seizure.
YouTube Video /
Another unhappy group, interesting though that this site is now saying JPM is WORSE! Read the recent posts.
21.12.09 01:49
#3
tapas90
MM´s Börsensprache
100 I need shares.
200 I need shares badly, but do not take the stock down.
300 Take the price down so I can load shares
400 Keep trading it sideways (auf der Basis von Angebot und Nachfrage)
500 Gap the stock. This Gap can be either up or down, depending on the direction of the 500 signal.
200 I need shares badly, but do not take the stock down.
300 Take the price down so I can load shares
400 Keep trading it sideways (auf der Basis von Angebot und Nachfrage)
500 Gap the stock. This Gap can be either up or down, depending on the direction of the 500 signal.
21.12.09 01:51
#4
tapas90
Wamus shareholders
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/own-disp?action=getowner&CIK=0000860866
21.12.09 08:13
#5
albay
Forum - All-In-One Message Result
http://www.thelion.com/bin/aio_msg.cgi?cmd=search&symbol=wamuq
21.12.09 08:17
#6
nerkeg
alter falter
kann mir hier mal bitte den link zum rt chart geben? finde ihn nicht mehr, danke leute
21.12.09 08:22
#7
albay
hier mal ein Thread mit RT -Charts zu WMI
http://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/...-mutual-realtime-charts
oben erster chart frankfurt
oben erster chart frankfurt
21.12.09 08:55
#9
schlurp
RT-Chart
MfG
Schlurp
www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1144742-1-10/...l-realtime-charts
MfG
Schlurp
21.12.09 08:59
#10
Scheroxx
rt chart
hier ist einer. frankfurt:
http://chart.consors.is-teledata.com/...IND5=VOLUME&ID_TYPE_SIZE=
21.12.09 10:00
#11
tapas90
Nochmals für Rappelzappel
A Win for WaMu Shareholders
http://www.thestreet.com/_aol/story/10648563/1/...eed&cm_ite=Feed
http://www.thestreet.com/_aol/story/10648563/1/...eed&cm_ite=Feed
21.12.09 10:03
#12
andyy
!
Support/Resistance
Type Value Conf.
resist. 0.41 2
resist. 0.24 3
resist. 0.21 2
resist. 0.20 4
resist. 0.18 5
supp 0.11 27
supp 0.08 3
Type Value Conf.
resist. 0.41 2
resist. 0.24 3
resist. 0.21 2
resist. 0.20 4
resist. 0.18 5
supp 0.11 27
supp 0.08 3
21.12.09 11:59
#13
tapas90
Bankfehler $14,4 Bill.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/...riday-14-5-billion-combined-assets
21.12.09 18:40
#16
tapas90
memo, court filing on KCLL von seppi11
I think there is lot of "evidence" (mails, memos, etc) in the recent court filing on KCCLL http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/...
which have not been discussed yet, e.g. from exhibit 6 on page 518:
•Had spoken to FDIC about bank receivership
•FDIC met with "West" - they had to open books
•We indicated to anaylze, but did not expect it to work for us
•We indicated we [...] would not participate in auction
•Approach is to work directly with FDIC
Screenshot from the doc here:
http://www.ariva.de/project_west_backgro...
which have not been discussed yet, e.g. from exhibit 6 on page 518:
•Had spoken to FDIC about bank receivership
•FDIC met with "West" - they had to open books
•We indicated to anaylze, but did not expect it to work for us
•We indicated we [...] would not participate in auction
•Approach is to work directly with FDIC
Screenshot from the doc here:
http://www.ariva.de/project_west_backgro...
21.12.09 19:46
#17
morseb
JPM und die FDIC - Buddies schon vor dem Seizure
Offensichtlich war die Kommunikation zwischen JPM und der FDIC schon vor dem Seizure ausgezeichnet 

21.12.09 22:39
#18
tapas90
n.c.
Re: WAMPQ Vs. WAMKQ Naturally. 30-Nov-08 07:07 pm O/S & Face Value
WAMPQ 3,000,000 @$1000 = $3 bil.
WAMKQ 20,000,000 @$25 = $500 mil.
WAHUQ 8,713,925 @$50 = $436 mil.
total -------------
$3.936 bil.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...=35&rt=2&frt=2&off=1
WAMPQ 3,000,000 @$1000 = $3 bil.
WAMKQ 20,000,000 @$25 = $500 mil.
WAHUQ 8,713,925 @$50 = $436 mil.
total -------------
$3.936 bil.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...=35&rt=2&frt=2&off=1
22.12.09 08:43
#19
tapas90
JP verkauft für $4 bin. erweiterbare Anleihen !
Ist da was im Busch, dass sich JP 4Mrd. Dollar besorgt?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKN2125541620091221
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKN2125541620091221
22.12.09 10:52
#20
HighMaster
tapas :-) eine gute Nachricht :-)
das hatte ich nicht gesehen.Danke.
Yep vielleicht die 4Mrd $ die Washington bekommen wird :-)) wer weiss ,wenns so ist dann stehten wir in kürze über 1Euro :-)
Yep vielleicht die 4Mrd $ die Washington bekommen wird :-)) wer weiss ,wenns so ist dann stehten wir in kürze über 1Euro :-)
22.12.09 12:23
#21
Tiger
Dann gibt es schon heute
eine kleine Kursexplosion als Vorgeschmack auf die kommenden Tage
22.12.09 12:49
#22
jumper17
ja so wie
bei Boulder Steel,was ich um etwa 11.00 uhr anmerkte,toll und ich habe zu lange gezögert.
22.12.09 13:05
#23
Gumoe
Washington Mutual Data and Calculations
http://streetace.com/wamu.php
22.12.09 13:37
#24
tapas90
Öffnungszeiten Börse bis Neujahr den 06.01.2010
Heiligabend, 24. Dezember
Geöffnet: USA (Halbtags) und Kanada
Geschlossen: Deutschland, Schweden, Norwegen, Dänemark und Finnland
Erster Weihnachtsfeiertag, 25. Dezember
Alle Börsen haben geschlossen.
Mittwoch, 30. Dezember
Die deutschen Börsen haben am letzten Handelstag des Jahres verkürzte Öffnungszeiten und sind bis 14.00 Uhr geöffnet.
Silvester, 31. Dezember
Geöffnet: USA und Kanada
Geschlossen: Deutschland, Schweden, Norwegen, Dänemark und Finnland
Neujahrstag, 1. Januar
Alle Börsen haben geschlossen.
Dienstag, 6. Januar
Geöffnet: Deutschland, Norwegen, Dänemark, USA und Kanada
Geschlossen: Schweden und Finnland
Zwischen 28. und 30.12.2009 sind alle Börsen, außer der kanadischen Börse am 28.12.2009, wie gewohnt geöfnet. Außerdem ist die deutsche Börse am 30.12.2009 nur bis 14.00 Uhr geöffnet.
Geöffnet: USA (Halbtags) und Kanada
Geschlossen: Deutschland, Schweden, Norwegen, Dänemark und Finnland
Erster Weihnachtsfeiertag, 25. Dezember
Alle Börsen haben geschlossen.
Mittwoch, 30. Dezember
Die deutschen Börsen haben am letzten Handelstag des Jahres verkürzte Öffnungszeiten und sind bis 14.00 Uhr geöffnet.
Silvester, 31. Dezember
Geöffnet: USA und Kanada
Geschlossen: Deutschland, Schweden, Norwegen, Dänemark und Finnland
Neujahrstag, 1. Januar
Alle Börsen haben geschlossen.
Dienstag, 6. Januar
Geöffnet: Deutschland, Norwegen, Dänemark, USA und Kanada
Geschlossen: Schweden und Finnland
Zwischen 28. und 30.12.2009 sind alle Börsen, außer der kanadischen Börse am 28.12.2009, wie gewohnt geöfnet. Außerdem ist die deutsche Börse am 30.12.2009 nur bis 14.00 Uhr geöffnet.
22.12.09 16:47
#25
tapas90
Paar Gedanken von enis21 im Forum eingestellt.
Thoughts on Settlement and EC
22-Dec-09 09:08 am
I spent this weekend listening to the court hearings and looking at the court motions. Thinking about this case on my ride home from work yesterday, it all came to me. Here is my theory (In my humble opinion) which seems to make a lot of sense (I believe) and hopefully is correct.
1. Weil has negotiated a global settlement which DOES include a recovery for commons and the settlement is imminent. It will likely be a very good settlement for commons (High single digits) but not a great one (Double digits). It is a settlement which will make Weil look good and the Judge will be happy to approve.
2. The trustee is rushing with the EC not because the commons will otherwise be wiped out in a settlement but in order to CYA (Cover his ass). The Trustee has knowledge the settlement is coming and is worried that since it is not a great settlement, he may have legal exposure for not having created an equity committee prior to settlement and his office could be sued later for failure to perform his fiduciary duties as the argument will be the equity committee could have gotten more money in settlement.
3. The battle in court between the Trustee and Rosen could be over whether the EC is necessary in order to settle the case. Weil would be opposed to it since if a settlement is in place, an EC of the largest shareholders could easily screw it up. It is one thing for retail to fight settlement of an extra $1 or 2 but the biggest holders with millions of shares could really throw a wrench in any deal. Weil's position is at this moment we need billions to get to commons so no EC however if we settle and Judge approves as fair, we are done. I feel Rosen's statement in court was almost to convince the Trustee that there is 7 Billion until we reach equity so if we suddenly settle there is no liability on your part for not approving an EC, so don't bring it.
4. I also believe the above scenario on the EC is more realistic than the Trustee is rushing the EC to save the commons from being shutout of settlement. The case has come too far at this point for the Judge to approve anything that wipes out the commons. She has shown from this case and decisions on others we have seen to be very fair minded. After the allegations in the adversary complaints, the 2004 motion and the recently filed 3rd party 2004 motion, there is no way she will allow the commons to be wiped out unless she is satisfied there is no action against FDIC and JPM. Forgetting about the MOR and NOL for a minute, the allegation against FDIC and JPM could be worth billions. 1 week ago WMI filed the 3rd party 2004 request with numerous documents which support wrongdoing. The Judge would never accept a settlement without commons unless it was argued that debtors have no case against against FDIC and JPM and since they just filed the motion, Weil can't turn around and say our discovery showed no case and therefore we need to settle with just the money on hand. Won't happen.
Bottom line is I believe the EC is to protect the Trustee and not to save the commons from extinction. All IMHO
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/...&rt=2&frt=2&off=1#-1
22-Dec-09 09:08 am
I spent this weekend listening to the court hearings and looking at the court motions. Thinking about this case on my ride home from work yesterday, it all came to me. Here is my theory (In my humble opinion) which seems to make a lot of sense (I believe) and hopefully is correct.
1. Weil has negotiated a global settlement which DOES include a recovery for commons and the settlement is imminent. It will likely be a very good settlement for commons (High single digits) but not a great one (Double digits). It is a settlement which will make Weil look good and the Judge will be happy to approve.
2. The trustee is rushing with the EC not because the commons will otherwise be wiped out in a settlement but in order to CYA (Cover his ass). The Trustee has knowledge the settlement is coming and is worried that since it is not a great settlement, he may have legal exposure for not having created an equity committee prior to settlement and his office could be sued later for failure to perform his fiduciary duties as the argument will be the equity committee could have gotten more money in settlement.
3. The battle in court between the Trustee and Rosen could be over whether the EC is necessary in order to settle the case. Weil would be opposed to it since if a settlement is in place, an EC of the largest shareholders could easily screw it up. It is one thing for retail to fight settlement of an extra $1 or 2 but the biggest holders with millions of shares could really throw a wrench in any deal. Weil's position is at this moment we need billions to get to commons so no EC however if we settle and Judge approves as fair, we are done. I feel Rosen's statement in court was almost to convince the Trustee that there is 7 Billion until we reach equity so if we suddenly settle there is no liability on your part for not approving an EC, so don't bring it.
4. I also believe the above scenario on the EC is more realistic than the Trustee is rushing the EC to save the commons from being shutout of settlement. The case has come too far at this point for the Judge to approve anything that wipes out the commons. She has shown from this case and decisions on others we have seen to be very fair minded. After the allegations in the adversary complaints, the 2004 motion and the recently filed 3rd party 2004 motion, there is no way she will allow the commons to be wiped out unless she is satisfied there is no action against FDIC and JPM. Forgetting about the MOR and NOL for a minute, the allegation against FDIC and JPM could be worth billions. 1 week ago WMI filed the 3rd party 2004 request with numerous documents which support wrongdoing. The Judge would never accept a settlement without commons unless it was argued that debtors have no case against against FDIC and JPM and since they just filed the motion, Weil can't turn around and say our discovery showed no case and therefore we need to settle with just the money on hand. Won't happen.
Bottom line is I believe the EC is to protect the Trustee and not to save the commons from extinction. All IMHO
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