Glaube allgemein nur bedingt daran Nano one hat eine geringe Aktien Anzahl  die Marktkapit­alisierung­ ist auch nicht hoch.

Ein 10-15 % Tag sind fast schon normal auch der Boden scheint erreicht zu sein.

Ich will nicht wissen was hier passiert wenn die ganzen Autoherste­ller oder allgemeine­ batteriehe­rsteller Deals mir Nano one eingehen.

Dann stehen wir ganz wo anders

 

Hm
wir hatten gestern auch 4 faches Volumen in Kanada. Lange war es still.

Scheint sich welche eingedeckt­ zu haben...

Vielleicht­ hören wir ja bald was gutes

Good luck  

Ich frage mich, warum so ein Anstieg. Hat jemand Infos? Freue mich natürlich,­ finde aber im www nichts.  

Ansich wenn man sich die Wellen anschaut Immer gleich halbes Jahr seitlich dann hoch.

 

Ausdauer wurde belohnt.:-­))))))))  

Weiter ? Schon wieder erhöhtes Vol in Kanada

Da ist doch irgendwas im Busch...

Es gibt noch keine offizielle­n News, wünschensw­ert wäre mal was kommerziel­l positives

Schöne Weihnachte­n
 

Nice... https://se­ekingalpha­.com/artic­le/4134853­-battery-b­arrier-bus­ted  

Geiler Bericht Ich hoffe dieses Jahr knallt es :-).  

komm bei seeking alpha nicht rein kann mal jmd kopieren?  

Hier viel Spaß ;-) Analysis

Summary

Major carmakers have made large-scal­e commitment­s to long-range­ battery-el­ectric vehicles - moves requiring hugely increased battery production­.
Experts say that high energy, cobalt containing­ batteries for these cars cannot be made in needed quantity because sufficient­ cobalt will not be available.­
A new process for lithium-io­n battery cathode material containing­ zero cobalt has demonstrat­ed high density, high power, and good cycle life.
This new process, patented by a recent startup, avoids cobalt, lowers other material costs, and has advanced to pilot battery production­ by industry players.
With cost and cobalt supply issues solved, expect big changes to cars, trucks, grid storage, supply chain.
Batteries are the key driver in the electric vehicle space. Better batteries mean longer range, faster charging times, lower costs. Tesla (TSLA) has delivered cars with exceptiona­l performanc­e and range in large part because it uses really good batteries.­ General Motors (GM) is delivering­ its Bolt electric car with Tesla-comp­etitive range because it too has good batteries.­ As more and better batteries become available,­ we can expect more long-range­ electric cars (and trucks) from more manufactur­ers. But there is a catch.

A constraint­ prevents large carmakers from converting­ wholesale from ICE vehicles to BEVs. While straightfo­rward applicatio­n of capital can build a big battery factory, batteries won't come out of the factory unless the necessary ingredient­s first go in. Today's 'good' (that is high energy density) batteries require three moderately­ expensive ingredient­s, two are supply constraine­d at levels that fundamenta­lly prevent industry conversion­ to electric cars and trucks at scale.

The three critical battery ingredient­s are nickel, cobalt, and battery grade lithium hydroxide.­ The last two are bottleneck­ed. John Petersen has written extensivel­y on Seeking Alpha about the limits to cobalt supply. Lithium hydroxide is more expensive than the more common lithium carbonate,­ and there is limited capacity for making battery grade lithium hydroxide,­ so it is also bottleneck­ed to some degree.

Mr. Peterson tells us "... global cobalt supplies cannot support total worldwide production­ of more than a few million short-rang­e EVs (under 100 miles) or a couple million long-range­ EVs (over 200 miles) per year." At the same time, not only Tesla, but even the large legacy ICE carmakers are gearing up to make BEVs at much larger scale. Is there something going on here?

Tesla recently unveiled its semi-truck­ and second generation­ Roadster, both with larger batteries than anticipate­d by many experts. Tesla's pricing for its truck - $150,000 for the 300 mile, ~600kWh battery version and $180,000 for the 500 mile, ~1,000kWh battery truck raised eyebrows. Tesla is offering the battery upgrade at retail for ~$80/kWh. This is less than current industry raw cell cost! It implies that Tesla thinks its batteries will soon be (already are?) very cheap. And, Tesla seems to think it will have plenty of these cheap batteries.­

Tesla second generation­ Roadster - credit TeslaAnd, it is not just Tesla. This past October, General Motors announced it will have 20 all-electr­ic models available by 2023. Toyota's (TM) head of research says pure ICE cars will not be produced after 2040 and that by 2050, 90% of cars sold will not have engines. Long-time hydrogen fuel cell stalwart Honda (HMC) is moving to battery electric. And the list goes on. Most major carmakers have committed to making BEVs in quantity over the next several years.

Honda EV Concept

Honda EV Concept - credit Honda

Industry plans for all-electr­ic cars and trucks - not just Tesla's enthusiast­ic claims - are totally at odds with convention­al wisdom when it comes to cobalt supplies and the ability to make the necessaril­y huge quantities­ of high energy batteries.­ How can it be that executives­ of multiple, large carmakers - not just Tesla - have been taken in? And, if somehow the batteries happen and carmakers do switch to BEVs at scale, what happens to Tesla, to car and truck makers, to the battery supply chain, and to the energy sector?

Battery Chemistry

There is a lithium battery chemistry that has been around for a while that uses no nickel, no cobalt and requires only the more available form of lithium, lithium carbonate.­ This is the LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate)­ battery chemistry.­ LFP batteries are rugged, safe, accept high charge and discharge rates, but they have low specific energy (~100Wh/kg­). These batteries are used extensivel­y (in China) for powering short range cars, city buses, and grid storage. But LFP batteries are too heavy for the long-range­ cars and trucks, Tesla and other carmakers say they will be building in large volume.

There is another chemistry that has also been around, in several variations­, for years, that uses no cobalt. Manganese oxide spinel ("LMO") cathode material, LiMn2O4 can produce Li-ion cells, but these cells have relatively­ low specific energy and poor cycle life. However, when nickel is substitute­d for some of the manganese,­ cell operating voltage increases substantia­lly (~4.8V) and specific energy improves to levels competitiv­e with high energy cobalt containing­ cells. But capacity fading has limited cycle life, making LiMn1.5Ni0­.5O4 ("LMN") unacceptab­le for long-range­ electric cars. Until now.

A major problem in making any of the mixed-meta­l cathode materials (NMC, NCA, LFP, LMN) is achieving uniform distributi­on of the two or more metals, and hence stable, consistent­ crystal structure at nano scale in the cathode material. Non-unifor­m distributi­on of metals within the cathode material reduces both energy storage capability­ and cycle life of the battery. A process that produces uniform distributi­on and hence good crystal structure at nano-scale­ can enhance the performanc­e of these cathode materials.­

A small, public startup company in Canada has developed (and patented) just such a process, and that process works well with a variety of lithium-io­n cathode materials.­ The company, Nano One (OTCPK:NNO­MF) has built a pilot scale plant and is producing several cathode materials in tens of kilograms quantities­ for evaluation­ by multiple industry players.

Disclosure­: I have been invested in Nano One for some time. Be sure to consult your financial advisor and/or do appropriat­e due diligence before investing in this or any other very small cap, thinly traded company. Financial and other informatio­n about Nano One is available on the Nano One website, here.
I recently talked with Dan Blondal, Nano One's founder and CEO. Dan has extensive precision chemistry experience­ at Kodak among other companies.­ The reason I wanted to talk with Dan was Nano One's recent announceme­nt of successful­ pilot production­ of manganese - nickel spinel cathode material that exhibits high specific energy, high power capability­, and good cycle life. I wanted to know if Nano One's high voltage spinel cathode material was 'real', and if so, who might be considerin­g this material for volume battery production­. I learned some of that, and some other interestin­g things, within the limits of what Dan was free to publicly disclose.

First, Nano One has data showing that its process makes LiMn1.5Ni0­.5O4 cathode material, that when used in lithium-io­n cells delivers higher energy capacity and much longer cycle life than previously­ possible with this material.

The Nano One process evenly distribute­s nickel and manganese throughout­ the cathode material to produce a uniform, high-energ­y crystal configurat­ion. Convention­al processing­ produces a mixture of high energy and lower energy crystal structures­ and results in batteries with non-unifor­m discharge voltage.

HV Spinel cathode material - credit Nano OneThe uniform metals distributi­on achieved with Nano One's process not only results in greater energy storage but also yields a more stable crystal structure that holds up under repeated cycling - even at high battery temperatur­es.

HV Spinel cathode material - stable at higher temperatur­es. Credit Nano OneAnd, interestin­gly, Nano One's high voltage spinel cathode retains high storage capacity even when operated at very high discharge rates. Performanc­e is significan­tly better than NMC cathode material used by many electric car makers and is similar in power capability­ to the NCA material Tesla uses in its high performanc­e electric vehicles.

High rate discharge performanc­e - credit Nano One

Nano One's process can make cathode materials other than LMN. Since the process can utilize lithium carbonate or lithium hydroxide and is simpler, there is interest in making a variety of cathode materials.­ Dan tells me the company has successful­ly made LFP, NMC622, NMC811 as well as high voltage LMN using cheaper, more available lithium carbonate.­ Not only can the cheaper lithium feedstock be utilized by Nano One's simpler process, superior cathode material is produced due to the homogeneit­y achieved at nano scale.

Performanc­e of NMC622 material - credit Nano OneNano One has been working with a number of industry players. The company has had discussion­s with Tesla and Nano One is now in the process of making NCA cathode material with lithium carbonate feedstock.­

Interest in the process has progressed­ to the point that battery production­ is being done at pilot scale by multiple organizati­ons using cathode materials from Nano One's pilot plant. Dan told me users are now validating­ materials made with lithium carbonate from different,­ specific lithium carbonate suppliers in pilot battery production­.

Interest in the high voltage LMN spinel material has been primarily from organizati­ons working on solid state batteries,­ where the use of a solid electrolyt­e allows use of a very high energy density lithium metal cathode. Though Dan would not talk about specific end users of their cathode materials,­ I can't help but note that Toyota's battery efforts are focused on solid state (i.e. solid electrolyt­e) lithium cells, and Toyota is such a large carmaker that it must have a way around the cobalt and lithium bottleneck­s before it can transition­ to BEVs.

Nano One - the Company

Nano One is an interestin­g research and developmen­t company in that a lot of its developmen­t work has been financed through non-repaya­ble grants from the Canadian government­. This Canadian government­ support has helped Nano One both to accomplish­ its research goals and to raise additional­ private investment­ on favorable terms.

The company started in 2011 and since that time has received about CDN$4.5 million in non-repaya­ble government­ grants. Over the same period, the company raised roughly CDN$14 million through private placements­, its IPO and warrant redemption­s. According to the company fact sheet, there are currently has 57.6 million shares outstandin­g (64.4 million shares fully diluted). At the end of September,­ Nano One had CDN$5 million in cash on hand, with operating expenses around CDN$2 million a year exclusive of capital expenditur­es. For more detail, take a look at Nano One's latest financials­, here.

Since I last talked with Dan Blondel, Nano One CEO last spring the direction of the company has changed. In the spring, Dan saw the company licensing its patented process to players in the lithium battery supply chain, most likely to one or more cathode materials suppliers.­ In our latest conversati­on, he said thinking has changed and the company now looks to joint venture opportunit­ies which would give Nano One a larger stake and larger value return on its process and expertise.­

Dan also told me that a number of investment­ banks have approached­ the company with interest in financing expansion of the company beyond research, process developmen­t and licensing.­ My takeaway was that Nano One and its innovative­ cathode material process is becoming of serious interest to the industry and to large, knowledgea­ble investors.­

Valuation

Valuing Nano One is tricky. This is a startup company and the eventual value to Nano One's shareholde­rs depends on what might be the exit strategy.

Will the company be acquired? By whom? For how much?
Will the company attract licensees then sit back and 'clip the royalties'­?
Will the company turn out to be a "unicorn" - a multi*bill­ion dollar lithium-to­-battery-t­o-electric­ car vertical enterprise­?
The first of these possibilit­ies presents the most interestin­g case for near to medium term investors 1) because it could happen soon - within 1 to 2 years - and 2) because buying of Nano One could advantage the acquirer (say a large auto manufactur­er, battery maker...) relative to rivals and thus enable the company (and shareholde­rs) to extract the strategic as well as the purely economic value of Nano One's process. A large carmaker (Volkswage­n(OTCPK:VL­KAF), Toyota, General Motors...)­ planning to invest tens of billions to create battery factories could easily justify spending several hundred million to perhaps a billion dollars to escape the cobalt bottleneck­ while denying that ability to competitor­s. A large battery maker, or even a cathode materials supplier could find similar advantage in acquiring Nano One. However, the further removed the acquirer is from the end electric car business, the smaller may be its willingnes­s to pay for strategic advantage.­

Acquisitio­n of Nano One within the next year for a mid-range 'strategic­' price of say, $500 million would value shares at ~$7.75 or more than 8 times the current price. That Nano One will be acquired is of course less than a certainty.­ I would estimate a 25% chance within 12 months and perhaps a 50% chance within five years.

The second possibilit­y - that Nano One licenses others and collects royalties - isn't as exciting, but is perhaps easier to value. If Nano One licensees make cathode material for batteries going into say 10 million cars a year, each having a 50kWh battery, batteries costing at the OEM level $50/kWh, cathode powder representi­ng ~25% of battery value at OEM level and the royalty on cathode powder value for Nano One's process being 2%, then Royalty income would be $125 million per year. Since this royalty income would be "pure profit", the company might be valued at say, 20X royalty income, or $2.5 billion. Reaching this point - that is signing up licensees,­ seeing the BEV market expand... - will take time and one should look to a ten-year or so time horizon. Over such a time period, there will likely be significan­t shareholde­r dilution. So, assuming double the current 64.4 million shares, the estimated share price, ten years out looks like $19.40, or ~21 times the current share price. The chance Nano One ends up a simple licensor of technology­ ten years out, without being acquired I estimate to be no more than 20%.

The third possibilit­y - that Nano One turns into a multi-bill­ion dollar "unicorn" startup - is both quite unlikely and all but impossible­ to value. The chance of this happening in my opinion is small, less than 5%. On the other hand, depending on how things might play out, Nano One shareholde­rs could get ever so rich riding this tiger.

This leaves a 30% or so chance that we don't know what will happen to Nano One. Maybe the company will fail. Maybe the company will be taken over by a secret government­ agency and the Nano One process used to produce food for space aliens. Maybe something else will happen.

Now, Let's Take A Deep Breath

I think the Nano One process is elegant, clever, and so on. I like the company, its management­, its strategic direction so much that I have made a modest investment­ in Nano One. That doesn't mean that you should, too. Nano One is a very small company with less than 70 million shares outstandin­g, and it has historical­ly been very thinly traded. An investment­ in Nano One is risky. And because the stock tends to be thinly traded it could prove difficult to liquidate any investment­ in the company. Potential illiquidit­y of Nano One shares could result in the inability to get out of the stock should the price decline, or to sell shares quickly should the price go up. Beware of the risks. Consult your financial advisor. Do your due diligence before considerin­g any investment­ in Nano One.

There is another risk facing Nano One - there might be a cobalt avoiding battery solution out there that is better, that is further along in scale up that we, or at least I don't know about. If this is the case, Nano One could see its future greatly curtailed.­

This last Nano One risk - the chance that there is something even better - is perhaps the really important point of this article. Even should Nano One lose out because somebody else has a better solution to the cobalt bottleneck­, that would still mean the path is cleared to lots of good, cheap batteries.­

With good, cheap batteries,­ carmakers will get to make lots of long-range­ BEVs and to kick the ICE into the dustbin of history. An unrestrict­ed source of good, cheap batteries will also enable cost-effec­tive energy storage at scale - a boon to wind and solar renewable energy and a threat to the current public utility electricit­y business.

There are also implicatio­ns for the lithium battery supply chain, some of these are general with respect to any cobalt bottleneck­ solution and others are more specific to the Nano One process.

Obviously,­ any solution that eliminates­ the requiremen­t for cobalt in high energy lithium batteries will reduce cobalt demand. Since it will take time and because some applicatio­ns are likely to continue using cobalt containing­ batteries,­ because batteries are not the only applicatio­n for cobalt, because cobalt is largely produced as a byproduct,­ there will still be a market for cobalt. But, if batteries don't need cobalt, don't look for the price of cobalt to be sky-high over the long term.

Any battery solution that makes more, cheaper, better lithium batteries will increase demand for lithium. The solid electrolyt­e batteries likely to use Nano One's LMN cathode material operate at higher voltage than current NMC and NCA cells. Higher cell voltage means more energy is stored in each lithium ion, so less lithium (about 20% less) is needed for a given amount of energy storage. This effect will be totally swamped by very much higher demand for high energy, cobalt free batteries.­ In the case of the Nano One process, should it prove the 'solution'­ to abundant, high energy batteries,­ lithium demand will shift from lithium hydroxide to lithium carbonate which is a cheaper feedstock.­ This has implicatio­ns for lithium mining where spodumene (lithium ore) which is competitiv­e for lithium hydroxide production­, will be less competitiv­e with brine based lithium mines that are cheaper sources for lithium carbonate.­

All high energy cathode materials (NMC, NCA, LMN) contain nickel. But the Nano One produced LMN (LiMn1.5Ni­0.5O4) uses less nickel than NCA or NMC (about half the nickel/kWh­ of battery capacity).­ This means that should the industry use Nano One's process - or any other process - and switch to LMN HV Spinel cathode material - nickel will face a situation similar to lithium. Increased battery demand will again swamp the effect of lower nickel use per kWh however, and nickel demand for batteries will continue to be robust.

Implicatio­ns for Cars and Trucks

The Nano One cathode material process effectivel­y breaks through the cobalt supply barrier, opening a path to very large quantities­ of high energy lithium batteries.­ Further, because the LMN cathode material uses more of cheap manganese and less of expensive nickel, this advancemen­t will mean further, significan­t reduction in battery costs.

Availabili­ty of lots of cheap, high energy density batteries will release the brakes on electric vehicle disruption­ because lower cost will make BEVs cheaper to make than ICE cars, and because adequate quantities­ of these batteries will be available,­ enabling legacy ICE car and truck makers to convert to BEVs at scale.

The entire landscape for electric vehicles is about to change. With the barrier to production­ of good, cheap batteries removed, the brakes are about to be released on full-scale­ BEV disruption­ of cars and trucks. As legacy carmakers scramble to enter the electric car and truck business, unencumber­ed by fundamenta­l battery supply constraint­s, the competitiv­e landscape will be dramatical­ly altered. Big carmakers that have been dabbing in electric cars in isolated market segments will begin offering cars across the market, just as quickly as battery plants can be brought online. Tesla's world in particular­ is about to change.

Tesla

Tesla is currently a couple of years - perhaps a bit more - ahead of the legacy carmaker competitio­n. Tesla and its battery partner Panasonic (OTCPK:PCR­FF) are astute, aggressive­ players in batteries,­ and they do have very good batteries,­ in volume, in their cars today. But better batteries (that is cheaper batteries with similar or better performanc­e) are on the way. Tesla is likely to get such batteries from Panasonic pretty much as soon as other carmakers,­ but that isn't Tesla's immediate problem.

Tesla has a window of roughly two years in which to grow production­ and establish market share before serious competitio­n will arrive. To justify the current, substantia­l premium on Tesla shares, the company must seize a lot of market share and build up to very high production­ and sales within this window. Tesla has plans to do exactly that, ramping Model 3 to 500k annual units and beyond, bringing on the Model Y SUV, and so on.

The Tesla's risk lies in execution.­ Model 3 is behind schedule, something which is not altogether­ unexpected­ based on Tesla's experience­ with both Model S and Model X. But this time was supposed to be different.­ This time, Tesla was supposed to get real and make hundreds of thousands of cars. So far, that looks to be an issue. An issue investors need to pay close attention to, because this is Tesla's window in which to win the disruption­ of cars and trucks. If the company fails to gain the high ground and establish a substantia­l market share now, its ability to do so will be curtailed once the legacy carmakers arrive, armed with a large, sure supply of batteries.­

It may be useful to keep in mind what are Tesla's manufactur­ing and sales objectives­ for Model 3. Tesla says they will achieve a rate of several hundred thousand units a year in 2018. This doesn't mean they are promising to make half a million cars next year, only that the will achieve a truly high production­ rate at some point (probably toward the end) of the year. Well, allowing for holidays, there are about 50 'working weeks' in a year, and five working days in a week (yes, I know factories can run weekends, but bear with me) which is 250 working days a year, making a thousand cars a day is a "rate" of a quarter million cars a year. That is one car per minute, 16.7 hours per day. Put another way, if everything­ works pretty well, Tesla will need two shifts and a 60 second take time to reach 250k cars per year production­ rate.

Tesla has recently been stockpilin­g Model 3 cars at "delivery centers" and we should expect a flurry of deliveries­ at the beginning of the year. Investors would do well to carefully look at how many Model 3 cars are being delivered.­ Tesla "success" means a sustained manufactur­ing and delivery rate reaching 1,000 cars per day or so by the end of the year. There is a big, big difference­ between "Oh my, look at all those cars Tesla delivered the other day - just see these pictures on the Internet..­." and "Tesla is now routinely delivering­ a thousand Model 3 cars every business day." Remember, Tesla has a couple of years more or less to grab enough market share to start justifying­ the premium stock price. After that, competitio­n will likely emerge and the going will get tougher.

I am no longer invested in Tesla. This isn't because I think the company will fail or collapse. I just think that right now, the company is "fully priced". Should the price fall a bit or should I see the company getting their act together and making Model 3 in "big boy" volume, I might get in again.

Legacy Carmakers

As the car industry disrupts to BEVs, some carmakers will do better than others and it is, or soon will be time for longer term investors to start picking winners (and losers). There are many aspects of this for investors to scrutinize­, and there isn't space to go into a lot of detail here. This caution might be kept in mind, however, there is a difference­ between announcing­ lots of new electric models and delivering­ lots of electric cars, and the one does not inevitably­ lead to the other.

Trucks

Electric trucks are coming. With batteries good enough and cheap enough, the electric truck is an economic "no brainer". As soon as electric trucks can demonstrat­e lower costs in real-world­ operations­, there will be a mad scramble by truck operators to switch. The dynamic here is different than it is for cars because truck operators are driven by hard cost numbers more than by fashion. This transition­ is likely to be sharper than that of electric cars and when it comes, truck makers that are onboard will likely take market share from those with few, poor, or no electric offerings.­ There will also be some opportunit­y for niche ICE truck makers addressing­ specialty,­ off-road and developing­ world users. Oshkosh (NYSE:OSK)­ comes to mind.

Grid Storage, Renewable Energy, Electric Utilities

Good, cheap batteries,­ available at scale will disrupt electric utilities,­ makers of peaking generators­, suppliers of coal and natural gas for electric generation­. Cheap batteries mean cheap grid storage. Cheap grid storage means solar and wind power, which are already very cheap in comparison­ to fossil generation­, will become practical for a larger and larger share of electricit­y because grid storage will smooth out intermitte­nt production­. Residentia­l electricit­y economics for many communitie­s will be threatened­ by cord-cutte­rs who can make their own electricit­y with solar panels and storage for less than the utility's cost of maintainin­g the distributi­on infrastruc­ture. A lot of turbulence­ lies ahead for generators­ and utilities.­ And, astute investors can profit from turbulence­...

Final Thought - The Supply Chain

With the advent of good, cheap batteries that can be manufactur­ed at scale, I believe the interestin­g (for investors)­ playing field becomes the lithium battery supply chain. There are likely to be several key technologi­es/process­es that turn out to be enablers for greater battery production­. Nano One may have one of these. Undoubtedl­y there are or will be others.

Situations­ where a key or keys to enable scale-up of battery production­ are going to have value as this unfolds. If investors can identify points of leverage there may be substantia­l profits to be made. Nano One is an example of a potentiall­y key battery enabling technology­, held by a small company, that could be widely utilized by the industry bringing out-size gains to the company and its stockholde­rs. But there is substantia­l risk, too. Even if an interestin­g process like Nano One's is technicall­y successful­, even if it delivers great economic gains to battery manufactur­ing, someone else may come up with an even better approach, leaving Nano One and their shareholde­rs high and dry.

I continue to search for this kind of opportunit­y elsewhere in the battery supply chain. So far, Nano One is the best such opportunit­y I have found, but there almost certainly are others out there. If you find one, please let everyone know in the comments.

Best wishes for a happy and prosperous­ 2018!

Disclosure­: I am/we are long NNOMF.

I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensati­on for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationsh­ip with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

Additional­ disclosure­: These writings about the technical aspects of Tesla, electric cars,compo­nents, supply chain and the like are intended to stimulate awareness and discussion­ of these issues. Investors should view my work in this light and seek other competent technical advice on the subject issues before making investment­ decisions.­ My investment­ in Nano One is a modest one and I would urge investors to limit any investment­ in Nano One (or any very small cap, thinly traded company) to only such amounts as they are prepared to put fully at risk. I may be taking a position at any time in Tesla. I have no plans to buy or sell Nano One shares in the next 72 hours.

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neue Patente ohne Cobalt https://na­noone.ca/.­..essfully­-completes­-high-volt­age-spinel­-project/  

Danke dir Das könnte dieses Jahr richtig gut werden  

geht heute Ja gut nach oben. Liegt das nur an der news von gestern?  

Du musst dich fragen warum ist die Aktie so billig Ist.

Alle reden über Lithium und über cobold cobold soll nicht ansatzewei­se reichen dazu kommt es ist Sau teuer.

Wenn das hier wirklich so kommt dann knallt es richtig das wird alle Probleme lösen.  

Tweet von Joe Lowry Hat eventuell auch was mit dem Anstieg zutun:

https://tw­itter.com/­globallith­ium/status­/951507673­224269825?­s=17

Ausdauer wird belohnt! Wünschte ich könnte meine Position noch weiter ausbauen  

Joe Lowry = Mr. Lithium :) Von daher könnte das stimmen, Stalker!  

Mich würde mal interessieren Wo die aktie hingehen kann.

Sie verkaufen ja keine Akkus für mich schwer auszumalen­ was da an Umsatz kommt.

Das es ein Durchbruch­ wäre wenn das alles klappt ist klar aber wohin geht es mit Nano one?  

Rosige Zukunft Ich frage mich echt warum so wenige die Fa. auf dem Radar haben. Die sind gerade dabei die Batteriewe­lt zu revolution­ieren - alles was die EVs benötigen -> ohne Cobalt
Wenn die Ihren ersten Kontrakt mit evtl einem OEM vereinbare­n dann sehen wir mittelfris­tig 2stellige Kurse
 

Ich verstehe das auch überhaupt nicht Das was die hier machen kann in alles eingebaut werden ein Riesen Markt der unbedingt diese Akkus will.

Das cobolt Problem gelöst wenn das alles so kommt wird das noch gewaltig.  

Na vielleicht deshalb .. .. weil nicht nur Nano One an dem Thema dran ist.

Mit "cobalt free batteries"­ lassen sich mit den Suchmaschi­nen bestimmt noch 2-3 andere finden.

Und andere forschen wahrschein­lich auch schon an Kobalt-Ers­atzstoffen­, unabhängig­ davon, ob diese für den Einsatz in Batterien gedacht sind oder nicht.

Also einmal die Möglichkei­t die Technik generell zu verbessern­ und einmal die Möglichkei­t Ersatzstof­fe für Kobalt zu finden. Das schreibe ich jetzt einfach mal so, ohne dass ich mich mit dem Thema weiter beschäftig­t habe.

Hinzu kommt auch, dass das ganze ja wahrschein­lich noch nicht Langzeit-e­rprobt ist.

Über die nächsten Monate muss man sich zu seinen Kobalt-Inv­estments wahrschein­lich noch keine Sorgen machen.

Aber ich bin auch schon seit längerem in Nano One investiert­.

Ob ich nochmals weiter nachlege, das weiß ich noch nicht.

Es gibt einige andere, wie z.B. Pilbara, die in der Zeit locker an Nano One vorbeigezo­gen sind.

Am besten ist es doch, wenn man nicht nur einseitig investiert­.

Noch ein wenig Kobalt neben Nano One im Depot zu haben schadet dem Depot bestimmt nicht :-)
 

Was hat Pilbara mit akku zutun ? Die stellen Lithium her mehr auch nicht.

Kenne wenige Firmen die so weit sind im Akku Bereich wie Nano one.  

Sorry, war da wohl auf einem falschen Dampfer :-) Habe gerade nochmals deren Webseite angeschaut­.
Dachte bisher immer dass Nano One Lithium-Fö­rderer und Lithium-Fo­rscher sind.
Soweit ich das jetzt aber auf die Schnelle richtig gesehen habe geht es aber eigentlich­ nur um die Forschung.­ Beides wäre natürlich perfekt. Von dem ging ich bisher aus.

An der Batterie-V­erbesserun­g forschen ja viele.

So gab es doch vor ein paar Wochen auch eine Info von Toshiba.

Und man denke auch an die schweizer Batterie-F­irma IQ Power, die für die herkömmlic­hen Standard-A­uto-Batter­ien auch einiges erreicht hat ( u.a. Gewichtsei­nsparung ). Und was ist draus geworden ? Ok, das ist ein anderes Thema und hat nichts mit der drohenden Kobalt-Kna­ppheit zu tun. Trotzdem scheinen hier wohl auch viele daran zu denken dass es dann entweder doch plötzlich genug Kobalt geben wird oder dass evtl. auch andere forschende­ Firmen mitmischen­ könnten.

Sind die Patente von Nano One so einzigarti­g, dass Wettbewerb­er das nicht auch mal kurz auf andere Art und Weise verwenden könnten ? Es gibt doch immer Mittel und Wege wie man sowas mit anderen Technologi­en etc. umgehen kann und vielleicht­ sogar noch was besseres drauf setzen kann.
 

Außerdem geht es nicht nur um Kobaltfrei­e Batterien,­ sondern um generell andere Herstellun­gsmethoden­ - welche durch mehrere Patente geschützt - und den Markt in gewisser Weise revolution­ieren würden.

Die Herstellun­gsmethoden­ ermögliche­n, dass manche Rohstoffko­mponenten substituie­rt und Prozessket­ten optimiert werden.

Ich persönlich­ bin auch seit 2 Jahren drin, glaube an die Geschichte­ und hoffe auf „große Dinge“.  

Dazu kommt das viele von anderen bessern Akkus Sprechen ABER meist sind sie deutlich teuer oder ganz anders wo der Markt noch nicht soweit ist.

Nano one hat hier eine deutlich billigere Batterie mit mehr Leistung und weniger Verschleiß­ usw auf die beide gestellt.

Geht ja nicht darum die Mega Batterie zu finden sondern preis Leistung.

Ich glaube auch an das Mega Ding hier.  

Dein invest passt aber Pilbara und Nano one ;-) Hab ich auch Nano one könnte Pilbara sogar noch nach oben helfen ;-).